Interview with Bruce Somers and Free Dominguez of Kidneythieves
AMZ - Let's begin with the band name itself,
"Kidneythieves." I think we all know the urban legend
that the name comes from, but how did you as a band arrive at
the name?
Free - Well, we were in the studio, and
I was telling Bruce about that urban legend, and Bruce says "We
should name our band Kidney Stealers," and I said "No,
Kidneythieves." I'm really into the symbolism of a lot of
things. I've studied a lot of philosophy, and I'm really fascinated
by myth and the way it affects the psyche, and the kidneythieves
story has become sort of a myth. Does it really happen? I don't
think the important thing is really whether it happens or not,
but the effect that it has. It gets a reaction from people, as
do a lot of mythical things. That's why we stuck with the name.
Myth attracts imagination. It has a lot of interpretations.
Bruce - If I can add to that, chicks kind
of dig it.
Free - Yeah, and it looks good on paper
too. Aesthetically, you can do a lot with it.
AMZ - Myth also in a way inspires creativity,
because the people that keep myths going add their own elements.
Free - Totally. We're living in a mythical
time. For example, the millenium. Is the world going to end?
Is it not? There's all kinds of age-old myths that keep going,
and it's a deep-rooted thing, and a culture, and a collective
psyche. People use it for a mode of transendence or closure,
and hopefully we'll be able to keep imagining with our future.
AMZ - How long have you two been writing
and recording together?
Bruce - About 2 1/2 years. I met Free at
one of our favorite eateries in Hollywood. She had heard of me
through a mutual friend, and she came up to me with all this
energy and all these songs and ideas, and I was looking at her
like "Who is this girl and what is this about?" We
got together after that, so it's been about two years now.
AMZ - How would you describe your music
itself? It seems to be a mix of a bunch of different styles.
Bruce - I think a lot of musicians have
a hard time describing their music. I think most people come
through and say "Yeah it's original. You've never heard
anything like it." I think there are definitely some original
elements, obviously there is some pulling from our industrial
influences like Ministry, lots of the Jorgenson stuff, the Nails
stuff, tied in more contemporary stuff, anything from Madonna
on the melody side, abd things like that. The way I usually describe
it to people is that it's a pretty hard-edged industrial vibe
with a female melodic singer on top, like a Portishead thing.
AMZ - Bruce, how much of your sound comes
from working with Free's vocals, because obviously your sound
is a bit heavier than her vocal style?
Bruce - That was a real challenge when
we first started working together. When we first got together,
I had worked with other female artists before and I sort of backed
off and went into the old acoustical Lilith Fair kind of mode,
so to speak, but as we started working more and more she just
kept questioning me, telling me to bring on the heavy stuff.
We brought up the Les Paul, plugged it in direct, and started
getting some nasty sounds out, and that seems to be what really
inspired her and myself. It took us about four or five months
to find our sound and when we found it, the real challenge was
to make a vocal like hers come out on top even though you have
some pretty heavy stuff going on. We found that niche, and more
importantly, found that space for the melody she sings. Finding
the right space to put everything is sort of like a puzzle. Once
we did that, it clicked a bit.
AMZ - It also seems that she has a greater
vocal range than you're normally used to working with with this
type of music, and I'm sure that helps you.
Bruce - I think that's the thing that really
sets it apart. Free brings such an incredible melodic strain
to all the stuff. I usually would start out with riffs and loops
and some ideas, and she would immediately start singing these
wonderful melodies to them and that sort of takes me to the next
place. Much easier then to find a bridge and chorus. After she
starts, it opens something up in my mind. For example, the song
"Layers" started off with just a riff, and then she
started singing and it was easy to make the leap to the chorus.
I knew instinctively where to go after that because she opened
it up with the melody.
AMZ - Your single, "s+m (a love song),"
was released in April. What sort of feedback have you gotten
from that?
Bruce - We were blown away. I think the
record company expected just to sort of put it out there to give
our distribution company, BMG, something to have so that we would
actually be doing some music. They didn't really expect to do
too much with it. They put it in a bunch of kiosks and they sold
almost 6,000 copies with no advertising and no marketing, with
just the single in a couple of kiosks. We were really very exciting.
We've got a pretty good following it seems, like in Miami, and
a real good midwest following in Chicago and Illinois.
AMZ - I was just about to ask if there
were certain areas that you were enjoying more success in than
others.
Bruce - We're really blown away that there
are potentially 8,000 people out there that have heard our music
before that we don't know or anything. We've gotten some really
good feedback from the cards in all the singles that people fill
out. We got a whole bunch of those back. It's been awesome just
getting the feelers out there.
AMZ - Are there any plans for touring at
this point?
Bruce - Right now we have just put together
a band. We have an incredible band put together. It came together
about 1000 times faster than I thought it would, and I guess
what I didn't expect was that people would want to do this. I
was thinking that we're small and independent and people would
say "Yeah, I'd rather be doing my Celine Dion gigs"
or something like that, but we found these monsters coming forward.
We've got a guy named Sid Riggs who played with the band called
Two on "Nothing," with Rob Halford, on Trent's label.
He came in and just blew our minds. He's technically amazing,
but he's such a hard hitter he broke my drum head the first time
and bled all over my drum kit. I thought "This guy's gotta
be in the band." The band's together pretty much and we're
just rehearsing and preparing some live tracks, so we hope to
be out by October. We're booking with a bunch of agencies right
now and trying to get some opening slots out there.
AMZ - As far as attracting other musicians,
I think you have a strong musical sound and I think other musicians
appreciate that and would want to be a part of it.
Bruce - Yeah. That caught me off guard.
Most people, when we get past college, it's all about money,
and with the guys we got, it's all about the music first. There
seems to be a real gravity pulling toward this project. People
are coming out of the woodwork that really believe in it.
AMZ - How hard is it to reproduce your
particular sound live?
Bruce - It's a lot of work, but I think
that from what we've seen so far (and we've literally only had
about 4 or 5 practices), it's blowing me away. I think it's gonna
be bigger (than the album) in terms of just the sonic force of
having multiple people and multiple energy together. It's all
been Free and I for two years in the studio with no outside feedback,
so to speak, and now all of the sudden we have these people energizing
it, and it's gonna be hard, but I think it's gonna be a great
show. It's almost going to be more theatrical than say heavy
metal or something like that. Our focus is to put on a show that
blows people's minds as opposed to "Yeah, that band was
cool, blah, blah, blah." Most people do that. We want to
be different. Amazing lighting, etc. (On a budget of course.)
AMZ - As opposed to the typical 10 song
set "Let's play this and get out of here. They know our
music. Let's give them what they want and blow this place."
Bruce - Exactly. You want to be blown away.
The top five concerts I've seen I'll remember because I was blown
away.
AMZ - Yeah. I buy a band's album to listen
to. I don't want to pay $25 to go to a concert and hear the exact
same thing I've just heard on my CD player.
Bruce - You know, I used to go see Rush.
I dug them a lot. Now that I think about it in hindsight, it
was kind of missing that awe. They reproduced everything perfectly
which was intense, and really hard to do, but especially today
people want to see that one step further. We just got to see
a show that was ten bands back to back and Green Day just stole
the show. They were awesome. I don't know if we'll be hurling
our drums into the audience right now, though. We're on a low
budget.
AMZ - You could hurl one cymbal into the
audience or something.
Bruce - Exactly! Wait...Maybe a drumstick.
AMZ - I think that with the addition of
all these musicians, it will enable more of an interplay with
the live sound.
Bruce - Definitely. I'm actually really
psyched. I'm doing some writing and with different people playing,
I'm hearing it back almost instantly, as opposed to me having
to go through and overdub everything and then hear it back. It's
an instant feedback thing that's really cool.
AMZ - I know with your particular experimental
music sound you're probably always in the studio working on one
idea or another, but are you and Free doing any recording together
at this point?
Bruce - Definitely. I have no idea what
the next album is going to sound like but Free has some amazing
conceptual ideas already. Sonically, I'm not sure how it's going
to turn out, but you're influenced by everything you do each
day. I don't know where it's going to go. We might do some writing
with the band or we might just do some writing between Free and
I. I don't know. But, you're always influenced by something day
to day, and everything changes, so it will be interesting for
us to see too. It takes a long time to write this stuff....just
getting every sound...
AMZ - On this particular album, the sound
is very layered, and there are a lot of elements. I can't imagine
you could whip one of these songs out in five minutes.
Bruce - Exactly. It would be nice sometime
to write a song in five minutes though. We always start out with
a basic track and we say "Well, lets make the drums cooler"
or "Let's do this," and all of a sudden every sound
is our own, and we mess it up here, or change it here, or pull
from here, and that's what takes the most time.
AMZ - I think that's a necessary evil.
I don't know too many people that can sit down and write a perfect
song right off the bat.
Bruce - If you're doing simple stuff, same
drum and guitar sound on every track, nothing is wrong with that.
That's just not what we do. We try to create soundscapes. I think
that's an expectation that's out there. If I was a Kidneythieves
fan, I would expect that, and when I listen to albums, I like
to hear the next track blow me away. It's like a vocalist would
change their sound from song to song. We like to do that with
guitar and drum and everything else.
AMZ - Free, do you have any specific influences
as far as your vocal sound or songwriting?
Free - I'm more inspired by certain artists
that I vibe with their space. I understand where they're coming
from, or they have a sort of honesty that I can relate to. That
inspires me to be honest. Most of the stuff I write comes from
my journal, and poetry, and personal thought experience. As far
as writers, I'm very influenced by a lot of poets, and Malcom
McLaren, 'cause they are extremely honest, and I love the way
words can create such a visual image. The honest of some women
have inspired me, such as Stevie Nicks and Annie Lennox, and
more recently women like Tori Amos and Erika Badu are extremely
honest where they're coming from - at least to me. Very visual
lyrically.
AMZ - I think it shows when you're not.
I think that's very important lyric- wise, especially when you're
trying to reach someone on an emotional level. If the honesty
isn't there, it's obvious.
Free - It's going places where you don't
want to go. It invokes a lot of power, and that comes from striving
to be honest. At the end of the day you can sleep knowing you're
honest (even if a lot of people think you suck. <joke>)
AMZ - I like the idea behind the songs
Swanmates and Feathers. Were they deliberately written as two
tracks or did that start out as a one-song idea?
Free - Feathers came from a poem that I
wrote called Swanmates, so I wanted to have sort of a prelude,
and also a separation of the two different thoughts that are
between them. You have s+m, and then Feathers next and I wanted
a bridge to it. I wanted to put something that showed what inspired
Feathers.
AMZ - I like the spoken word part of the
song. Any plans on doing any more of that?
Free - Yeah. I'm a big fan of spoken word.
I think it's unfortunate that there's not more of it around.
It's extremely fair, and it can really be used to invoke thought
and emotion.
AMZ - I also think Bruce's music is a perfect
complement to the spoken word sound, with the images he can create
and the images the speaker can create.
Free - Oh definitely. One thing about me
and Bruce is that it's hard to put into words, but we become
like this one funnel when we're together, and to me words have
a color and a rhythm, and he'll either see that and translate
it into his words which is music, or vice versa. I'll hear a
groove of his and the words or melody will pop from it. It's
a very very special sacred thing that we have.
AMZ - Bruce, you've worked with Sean Beavans,
the producer, before. How helpful was that in this recording
process?
Bruce - It was weird. Sean and I worked
together when I was in school a while back and we started doing
a whole bunch of things. We played together for a long time and
he's pretty much been my mentor in terms of music and engineering
and a lot of things. He's opened me up to worlds that I would
never have even imagined. It's bad, but we hadn't worked together
for about 6 years. I came out to see him in New Orleans in 1996,
and it was amazing to me that even though we hadn't been in each
others face, we had the same sort of similarities in music, and
the way I was thinking and the way he was thinking musically
was still right in line. Sean has been a huge influence on me.
With this album, when he came to mix it, it was an honor for
both of us. His influence inspired both of us, sort of that gravitational
thing again. It was great. It really kicked us into a new gear
when Sean mixed this thing.
Free - Sean has this great way of seeing
things. Bruce and I, we hear a song 1000 times, and we've got
our blinders on sometimes. He'll just come in and go "Well,
why don't you look over here?" and it really helps.
AMZ - I guess it's hard when you've written
something yourself, because you know where it comes from and
where you want it to go, but that's all you see. Someone else
can come in and suggest other ideas.
Bruce - When you work with someone, to
me it has everything to do with respect. Most people are defensive
about their work. You work so hard on something and it takes
everything out of you, mentally and physically. Then someone
comes in and says "Why don't you do this?" and 90 percent
of the time, it's hard for most artist to deal with. Sean can
come in, and the way he says and what he says, bypasses everything
else and goes right to the source...right to the core. He's like
a great surgeon, and his points are so concise they're easy to
take.
AMZ - Free, we discussed tour plans earlier.
Are you looking forward to getting out and interacting with an
audience?
Free - Definitely. We've got a great core
of musicians together and we've been playing around in the studio
a bit. We're going to put a show together, and it's going to
be more than picking up instruments and playing. It's going to
have a lot of personality and theater to it. Instead of just
dictatating, it translates everything we did on the album in
a bigger way to me. I'm very very excited to do that.
Bruce - We're experimenting with a bunch
of stuff to see what comes through, but one thing we're experimenting
with is that I was first and foremost a drummer, and everything
in music starts with rhythm, whether it's vocally or some kind
of energy deriving from rhythm. Based on that priority, in practice
we've been working on some stuff where I'll play drums also.
Not necessarily in a Grateful Dead vein, but more in terms of
two different people having two different sounds playing rhythmic
instruments, vibing off each other. It's been really cool.
AMZ - Before we return you to your regularly
scheduled programming, I wanted to ask you where the title of
the first song, "Taxicab Messiah," came from. It's
an interesting title.
Free - That actually was something that
happened to me. I had a twilight zone experience in San Fransisco,
and I got in a cab and had a very strange experience, and that
was my interpretation of it.
AMZ - Well, thank you for your time, and
good luck! |